Yeah! I know the last one was meant to be the finale and conclusion but the hit piece by some goes on and on.
I want to preface this with a text from the Gospel of John because it highlights the human condition and how we often handle truth: Joh_18:37 Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.”
Joh_18:38 Pilate *said to Him, “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews and *said to them, “I find no guilt in Him. Here we have Pilate essentially dismissing the whole idea of truth to the face of the person who is both creator of the everything and saviour of the elect. I can only imagine the look on Pilate’s face as he stood before the throne of judgement only to see Christ at the Fathers right hand.
In essence this whole theme is about truth and how we get to the truth. Is truth subjective or objective? How we do that, and what we do with truth is the all important question. Our problem as fallen humans is we treat truth preferentially; we take the truth that appeals to us and dismiss any truth that offends us.
In what I have written so far there is at least one thing that might have offended some people; calling humanity fallen! Pilate is a case in point. Jesus states His reasons for why He has come and Pilate summarily dismisses Jesus’ claims. Jesus statement that He has come into the world to testify to the truth and that those who are of the truth hear His voice… Did Pilate hear the truth? Yes! Did Pilate listen to the truth or consider Jesus’ words? No! The very next thing Pilate does is go out to the Jews and state that he found no guilt in Jesus.
On the surface what Pilate said is true, Jesus was not guilty of any crime. The preceding statement however reveals the level of mockery and dismissal of Jesus’ claim by Pilate. Pilate wasn’t interested in knowing Jesus or why Jesus had come. Pilates question about who Jesus was loaded with mockery, “Soooo you’re a King? If you were to read this in its context by following through what occurred just prior to Jesus’s meeting with Pilate you get a sense of what is really going on. The Jews had conspired to murder Jesus at any expense. Ironically Jesus confirms that He is the King of the Jews after which He states his purpose that exposes the guilt of those conspiring against Him. It is in every sense a tragic comedy. It is not a passion play as some Liberals would like to describe it; It is an actual serious event or drama with a happy ending. The Ending being the resurrection of Christ from the dead and the redemption all of those predestined to eternal life.
So what parallel am I drawing between the hit piece on James White and Jesus’ accusers? The comparison is clear. Those accusing James White are making slanderous accusations that if one were to review the evidence objectively would find James innocent of compromising the gospel or sidling up to the Muslims as a sympathiser so that they can infiltrate the church.
It must be embarrassing to have to go to such an extent to explain your actions and intentions to the public when they could simply look at the dialogue that took place to know that all the accusations against James White are false; but it seems that not even this is enough. Sadly though James White’s accusers are not even bright enough to actually view the dialogue with Yasir Qadhi view the original dialogues here
This will give you the true sense of what was said and why. Further to this if you copy and paste the first link at my introduction; you discover that now James White is apparently part of some grand conspiracy to undermine the church with Islamism. If it wasn’t so sad and ludicrous it would be funny.
What does this say about the accusers and their handle on truth? How did they get to where they are? They in one instant claim a version of truth but in the very next moment deny the actual practice of truth in their own actions or in this case words! Just an observation: If you talk to someone who suffers from partial deafness, such as myself, we try very hard to understand what people are saying so we may respond appropriately. Here we have people including investigative reporters and Christians who claim to know the truth not even bothering to investigate the truth and then only selectively hearing what they want to hear. I suspect they haven’t listened to one word of the actual dialogue and blatantly lied that they did! If you have listened to both sides what other conclusion can you draw? Can you put aside your own biases long enough to hear and see what was actually said? Apparently a lot of people who claim the truth can’t hear the truth due to their own biases and traditions.
Once more this comes back to what version of truth the person was won with and what they were won to; the question that needs to be asked is is there is more than one version of truth? Not if there is more than one version; IS there more than one version?In my mind there isn’t more than one version of truth although more often than not we as fallen sinful human beings only hear the truth selectively. If there was more than one version of truth then truth is only ever relative. If there is only one version of truth then our options are far more limited
Those of us who at least attempt to be consistent with the truth will admit that our handling of the truth is at times less than honest because we ourselves have had our posteriors nailed to the wall by it.
If we analyse the exchange between Pilate and Jesus we can see that everything Jesus did and said was consistent with His ministry and message. On the other hand everything the Jews, the high priest and Pilate did was consistent with not hearing or knowing the truth nor were they interested! It wasn’t a case of not understanding what Jesus was saying; it was a clear case of rejecting the truth!
In the same way this whole hoopla with James White is not about misunderstanding, it is one of clear deception. I get it that Brannon Howse and others don’t want egg on their face for getting it wrong but if it was only that we could say it was an innocent mistake. This is not an innocent mistake. James white has challenged them to listen to the full discussion. The other side either lied in saying that that they have or they deliberately cherry picked the discussion and only talk about those pieces that support what they are accusing James White of… They have both lied about doing in depth research and have cherry picked James White and Yasir Qadhi’s dialogue. Sadly many Christians are too lazy to do the leg work for themselves and think that because some Christian celebrity with an internet webcast talks about current affairs and theology they are suddenly an expert who can be trusted to tell the whole truth… Many times it takes no longer than five minutes for most of these celebrities to expose both their theological and denominational positions. That is an observation not a criticism. I listen to people from a wide variety of backgrounds but I don’t simply just take their every word as gospel truth; I investigate what they say and discern the truth by giving who they’re talking about a fair hearing.
Some would accuse me of being lead into deception by false doctrine and the lies of the world but my common response is not everything the world says is a lie, such as the sky is blue and not every word that comes out of an Arminian’s mouth is wrong such as Jesus is Lord and Saviour God. When people start saying you shouldn’t listen to this or that person and warn you that you will be lead astray by false doctrine I hear fear and ignorance talking. Most times the fear is of someone actually knowing something we don’t and losing control of that person or it is fear of the embarrassment that someone much younger or less experienced and knowledgeable than ourselves might prove us wrong thereby exposing our own ignorance.
It isn’t uncommon for church members to become dependent on their Pastors and Elders, I am not implying this is a bad thing. In most cases your local Pastor and church Elders are trustworthy men who are called by God and gifted to lead and teach the scriptures faithfully or guide the church into holiness. Even so there is no excuse for church members not to research the bible and grow in knowledge themselves. This includes this situation where a person or group create a hit piece that does nothing to advance the gospel but only detracts from it.
Clearly these people have an agenda. On one side they have shown their fear and ignorance of Islam having fallen for all the common misconception that all Muslims are terrorists where the only solution is to extradite them or jail them. Next they ignore all the statistical data that shows that Islamic terrorists primary targets have been moderate Muslims in the Middle East. Moderates are as much infidels as non-Muslims are in the West. It is undeniable that there are terrorists acts committed in Western countries by Islamic extremists but lets be honest; Terrorism aims to disrupt society and its sense of security not over run it. Islamophobia in the West thinks that Islam will suddenly emerge as the dominant religion so that it changes both culture and Politics. They argue that if this occurs all the rights and freedom’s we know in the west will suddenly disappear; this is especially true of the Christian Community. it thinks that it is a primary target.
In a sense all of this is true but how realistic are those fears? Fear is not always irrational I can’t say those fears are entirely unfounded but I can say that fear is often fuelled by ignorance and misinformation. This hit piece is definitely fuelled by misinformation on the part of those producing and promoting it although it isn’t ignorance driving it. On the part of most of those viewing these hit pieces ignorance is the main factor although if I was the one concocting these misconceptions I would be hoping that those following are caught up in the whole emotion of the moment. I would use some character assassinating tactics to undermine or raise doubt about the person I was doing the hit piece on and then insert unfounded accusations that they were in league with the devil or something. By this time most would have been taken in and switched off their critical faculties they would be running on emotions by now… Ever tried to reason with someone who is sad or angry to the point where their whole focus is on that one thing that made them feel that way? Doing a hit piece on someone is much the same for the presenter when they can manipulate the audience away from reasoning to feeling.
So you would get the sense that I am favouring James White over against the wall of accusations; and you would be correct! Mine is not motivated by emotion. If I had the discussion with Yasir Qadhi that James White did in fact have, I would expect the same kind of hit piece by Brannon Howse in a very short period of time. In fact I think James White expected the same… So did I. The reason this isn’t driven by emotion is because I have had a lot of time to digest the situation. Sure I could be outraged but I know the facts and facts don’t lie. It goes without saying that at some point someone will read my blog and and misquote me. I’m a bit surprised it hasn’t happened already.
There was one attempt by someone not long after I began this blog who interacted with me in an attempt to trap me but I knew who they were and it was personal I could have raged on at them but it wasn’t worth my time or effort… I also happen to be the Moderator of this blog. That wasn’t about truth that was simply attempted revenge.
This segue’s into where I began. So is this hit piece about truth? No! it is about a very misconstrued misunderstood area of discussion that two men from very different backgrounds and beliefs tried to make clear to their audience. If one had bothered to give their dialogue a fair hearing one would never have said a negative word about it… Oddly enough it isn’t Muslims claiming James white misconstrued Yasir Qadhi’s meaning or that James white was trying to infiltrate Islam. It is all coming from Christian fundamentalism! At some point someone has to ask the question as to whether the enemy is from the outside or the inside. (note the order that I stated that and it’s implication)
Notice all the actions of those in John chapter 18 who were conspiring against Jesus and compare them to James white’s accusers you decide what is really going on here.
I just found an interesting response posted by a group called C.H. (Changing Hats) entitled Public statement on James R. White I think it is a great addendum to my blog article. Please read it.
And another response by Christian News Network