What you win them with is what you win them to: Shallow thinking people and lies

Here’s a great quote from Dr James White ‘If you repeat the same mantra no matter how many times it’s been refuted, shallow thinking people will agree with you“.   go  to  the link at time stamp 23:37

let me add something else to this that we should consider Joseph Goebbels said ““If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the TRUTH is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the TRUTH is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Where  do I begin? I have  had a number of fairly hostile conversations over  the last week or  so  that kind of crystallise one’s own thinking. I admit without reservation I see  the world in a fairly black and white manner, I am not the  most compassionate  or empathetic person. But I  do listen and  try  to understand where people are coming from.

That being said when  you have  to say something and  then  you have  to say it again and again the other person obviously isn’t listening.  We all have our blind spots that others can see about us  that we can’t ourselves. When others point those blind spots out we can either take it on board or we can   go into melt down mode. Admittedly not every  reacts  or responds   the same way.

A reaction in terms  of criticism is essentially a negative response where  some get angry. Other people  don’t appear  to  show any reaction and still others  go into defence mode. A reaction isn’t always wrong such as a reaction  to fear or pain  so although  the stimuli is negative the reaction is positive  for the sake of self preservation.

A response is when someone hears and receives what another person says and may act on it at some point. The stimuli may not be negative either. However people responding  to criticism may appear positive  but have negative results  because they were simply passively resisting and had no intention of taking anything on board that was just said.

You will notice that the title of James White’s program  this  time around   was entitled speaking  the truth in love. Sometimes that isn’t easy  to  do. James circumstance  that he shares  above bares no similarity  to  to mine except  what he says where  I have  time stamped  the recording does. And  why would I include  the quote of a monster such as Joseph Goebbels… because it is also true.

Although Goebbels engineered a massive lie and the death of millions there is a place in all of us  that no matter how much we would like  to say I’m not like that; we are! We can lie and deceive ourselves.  The prophet Jeremiah put it this way Jer 17:9  “The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it? NASB. The king James says The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Young’s Literal Translation says,  Crooked is the heart above all things, And it is incurable—who doth know it?

I  think both the King James and  the NASB catch the sense of  what the prophet was saying although Young’s   goes a bit far in saying  the heart is incurable. It’s not. God made a way  through Jesus Christ  for us to be redeemed from our sin Rom 6:23  For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. And John  the Apostle said 1Jn 1:8  If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 
1Jn 1:9  If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 
1Jn 1:10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

In this is both a warning and a promise. The warning regards  our ability  to deceive our own hearts and intentions while  the promise is that Christ is  the solution. My point is that  this refers  to all men women and children  who have lived on this earth except Jesus Christ.

We can’t say  that we will never sin again once more the Apostle John says: 1Jn 2:1  My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; 
1Jn 2:2  and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. 
1Jn 2:3  By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. 
1Jn 2:4  The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 
1Jn 2:5  but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 
1Jn 2:6  the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.

What am I getting at? There is a  blog I followed  for  some time of a person  who obviously has a mental illness. They have  some vendetta against mental health therapists  because  they  think  they  got a bum deal themselves. I held off commenting on their anti psychiatry anti medication rants until  today and said something  that caused  them  to mount a verbal assault on me after which they blocked me. Fine. In there ill state anyone  who criticised  or questioned  them becomes  the focus of their anger and bitterness. They can’t see it others can.

On another blog was someone  who posts devotionals  that are quite inspiring and I posed  the question about  what our primary purpose was and went  on to say it wasn’t about bells whistles person centred purpose driven user friendly things  that make people  feel good about themselves. It’s amazing how hostile people can become  when  you hit them on their pet beliefs. They basically dismissed everything I said but they never answered the question either.

For some Christianity is measured by their success their spirituality is measured by their performance and image. For others it is numbers on seats and how much money  they are getting in tithes. None of that is real! Jesus worked for three years  with 12 men. 11 of them died horrible deaths. One betrayed him and  the other meet him on the Damascus road after persecuting  the believers. ON  the devotion blogger it has   to be said  that no matter how much  work  you  do if  your message is washed  down, is shallow and makes people feel good it’s not  the gospel I know.

Yes there is an up side  where  you discover  peace  that passes all understanding  you know  that you have a place in eternity and   you know  that even though men may kill  your body  they can’t touch  your soul it belongs  to Christ. Even  so nowhere in the bible is there  the promise  that your life  will be peachy keen in fact the record  shows  that it will  be the exact opposite. Of course  not every Christian  goes  through  some kind of spiritual meat mincer although  they still have  to obey and resist temptation. Being tempted isn’t sin but temptation is a very cunning deceptive fellow  that creeps up on  you when  you least expect it and tries  to entice  you.

The biggest part of our own self deception is believing that we will never   do it again. We all say I will never sin again…. five minutes later  we are coveting  what someone has  or  thinking about that sin we committed  that was such a wonderful experience  when it happened and we say  that it repulses  us now but can we seriously honestly say never? Sometimes God  does miraculously  cure  us  from  our besetting sin but I  would never say  that.  I  would be forever saying God keep me  from THAT temptation. Paul reminds  that  the temptations we suffer are common  to all. For each one of us  that temptation is different however Paul also says  that God promises us all a way out… it’s  simple  don’t engage  in it, run  from it as Joseph  did from Potiphar’s wife. Once more  it’s not  just a one sided message that  the bible  brings Paul wrote: 1Co 10:13  No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it. 
1Co 10:14  Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry.  Sin is anything we idolise or put before God and be honest we often idolise our sin.

What I am getting at is not  being in a position where sin can occur. the Lord said  to Cain: Gen 4:7  “If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.”  How  do we master sin? I have had someone tell me they have mastered a sin they committed.  No  they haven’t! Christ mastered  our sin  because  we couldn’t. He mastered our sin  so we can be forgiven.  We don’t face eternal punishment  for our sin but there are consequence that remain for our sin in this life. Those  consequences may include  not being able  to  go  to a pub or bar  for a meal because  the temptation  to drink may be too great and  you’ve already lost one career and family because of it. You may not be able  to be around certain people or places  because  of a crime you’ve committed that restrains   you from  doing  so. For us  who are Christians  there may be things  we did before we came  to Christ  that we  got away  with  but we shouldn’t  go near those places  things   or people because in a moment of weakness it  could ruin  your life and destroy every relationship we have.  There are just things we shouldn’t entertain at all, ever! No matter how much we try and how much we say never… we  just don’t know. Don’t take  the chance! 1Th 5:21  But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; 
1Th 5:22  abstain from every form of evil.

Sermon over: Peace guys







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